Thursday, December 30, 2010

Rummaging through Romans-Stats

Wouldn't you love to have an entry window into Paul's world? This 'apostle to the Gentiles' lived a life of raw honesty. Did he know he was writing letters that would one day be regarded as the holy text? The miles of desolated travel, fierce loneliness that opened hours of demonic bombardments at night and the weight of dramatic gospel advancements with poor theology and false teachings that ravaged the early church, loaded him daily. It makes my daily groans seem like whispers in a raging wind storm.

I know that there is so philosophizing and conjecture around apostles today. Yet much of what I hear seems more reflective of a sociological conversation around cultural leadership than this most noble humble office. The book of Romans has been my vacation musing. Oh Lord what a wondrous gift. Paul was a man of many words and certainly not easy words. Yet his pain for these new believers as well as for his Jewish brothers rampages through these pages.

Here are some interesting stats about this amazing letter, that was written to a church that faced the weighty challenges of urban church planting in the prevailing civilization of the day:
  • Written around AD 57 [ESV study]
  • 16 chapters,
  • mentions of the kingdom x 1,
  • of signs and wonders x 1
  • God's wrath x 10,
  • the gospel x 11,
  • justified x 11,
  • grace x 17,
  • righteousness x 41,
  • the law [in all its forms] x 75.
Isn't that just WOW? One must always be very wary of reading too much into stats. This is one of the letters that Paul wrote. To get a more complete Pauline theology one obviously needs to study all his writings. However it is widely regarded that this epistle is the yardstick for all theology. May I draw attention to these propositions:
  • The apostle's primary task is to see the gospel proclaimed toward salvation,
  • To let this gospel then establish believers in the faith,
  • To lay solid gospel centered Christological foundations,
  • Defending and guarding truth / doctrine,
  • All other parts of his mandate do fall behind these matters.
More musings to come...

Sunday, December 12, 2010


It is that time of the year! We are looking forward to some very needed hopefully deserved, vacation time. I will do very little writing during this time.

Enjoy Christmas with family and friends.

Make rich memories.

Friday, December 10, 2010

2011-what does it look like?

I would love to hear from you all -

What do you believe 2011 holds for you?
What is the Father emphasizing into the new year?
What direction are you setting for your church?
How is the gospel affecting your business?
What are the "must read" books?
What is your big adventure in 2011?



Wednesday, December 8, 2010

Is there another way? Apostolic Philanthropy.

I came to a faith story in 1976. It was the tail end of the Jesus People in South Africa. They were "heady and intoxicating times". My wonderfully kind heavenly Father, took me, a suburban kid and placed me in an inner city church, meeting in the industrial part of town. Our outreach was a flat bed truck painted with the brash "Turn or Burn" in psychedelic colors, was parked on street corners, at the beach and about anywhere we could. There the raw ravaging rock band would strike up and we would bash out passionate but poor renditions of Barry McQuire, Larry Norman and anyone else who could help us attract a crowd. The gospel would then be attested to with 3 minute fire before the band would launch out again. We lived in communes. We met in a bare warehouse. Many came to faith as we preached the gospel in night clubs, in the red light district and filtered our new converts through the detox that these communal homes provided.

There is a most noteworthy record of a meeting between five apostles in Galatians 2. Peter, James and John found themselves in the same city of Galatia working with the same believers as did Paul and Barnabas. It is a most intriguing gathering for a number of reasons — it speaks of apo collaboration [something we will explore later]. It speaks of two different sets of apostles working in the same context together without a sense of conflict or territorialism. But given our subject today, there is a strong exhortation from the Jerusalem based crew to Paul to "All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do" .

How does one define apo philanthropy?

"Fix you thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess" the writer of the Hebrew text teaches. It may be said that pastoral philanthropy is focussed largely on the local community, the Jesus apostolic model is captivating. One cannot but be empowered by his story. Here are some convo points:
  • He modeled his love for the sinner, the poor, the disenfranchised by going to live among them. We cannot talk about this without exploring the incarnation — "the Word became flesh". The picket fence dream of the scripture includes a consideration of loving the shadowlands of society so much that we go and do life with them,
  • Whilst he fulfilled the Law and the Prophets by simply gathering 12 hebrew men as his disciples, he was a liberator of women. He drew them into his circle. He taught them. He forgave them. He valued them. From the woman at the well to the woman caught in the act of adultery, he chose the grace encounter rather than the consequence of the law, which was stoning. In fact, the first gospel message was preached by Mary as she was told to rush back and tell the disciples that he has risen. What a moment to destroy convention by establishing a new culture-that of the kingdom, and the restored value of the daughters of his Father.
  • Jesus breached the limitations of His culture and national boundaries. His now famous "good samaritan" story blew the narrow lines of a mono-cultural philanthropy to include the fragile of society beyond any of our prejudices and preferences. His love actions included all — irrespective of age, gender, culture, ethnicity.
  • This Jesus call includes a voice to the voiceless — like the modern sex slaves; food for the hungry — like the feeding of Haiti; clothing of the naked — like the sprawling squatters of the modern cities that are producing millions of pavement children, left to sniffing glue to find something to hide their pain; setting up medial clinics to heal through prayer and medicine — like many ministries are doing in some of the most improvised parts of the world; sending teachers and starting schools — like friends are doing to educate the dump children to empower them for a greater life opportunity...
The early church started this way.
  • As early as Acts 2 and 4, we see that "there were no needy among them". Whilst this is more pastoral than apostolic, it is the responsibility of the church to firstly look after her own.
  • Land was sold and the money was given for the apostles to distribute in Acts 4,
  • The first deacons were appointed to resolve the tension created between the Hebraic and Grecian widows in Acts 6.
  • Amidst all the wonder of signs wonders and salvation, of church planting and pioneering doors of opportunity, the Antioch church plant gets a prophetic word about a famine that is to strike the world soon. Their response was global and apostolic. They committed themselves to "each according to his ability, decided to help...". This was what all these early believers did. It was not left for the rich, nor only for those with the gift of [financial] faith. It was apo christianity 101. All were involved. They gave the money to Paul and Barnabas who in turn took it to their apo friends in Judea for distribution — love working with friends across the globe.
  • So many of the epistles record instruction and responsibility to engage the poor — be they widows, slaves, unemployed...
We cannot be ambassadors of the King, if we forget the poor. Whether we minister in the inner city with an urban plant, or in the suburbs with wealth and opulence, we are simply not exempt from the mandate. Church planting, healings, signs and wonders, teachings, life groups are simply not enough. The church as true followers of Jesus, will always find ourselves in the shadow lands of society, the "Word became flesh and dwelt amongst..."

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Is there another way? Apostolic Q & A.

Here are 2 requests for clarification on an earlier blog:

Alan Frow said...

very helpful,Chris! What would you say is the difference between prophetically essential and Spirit - led. Also the difference between culturally imperative and contextually vital?domthey not overlap?
All in all great thoughts though.

Matt W - Harvest said...

Agree with Alan on these thoughts Chris. Great concepts.

I am curious as to your thoughts on the "prophetically essential" as well. What forms do you envision this taking? How do you think the church can manage change on a consistent basis like that?

Is there another way? Apostolic Fathers

This question: "Is there another way?" covers way more than the matter of apostles. I would love to spend much time exploring these implications with prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. For each there is a unique kingdom job description, set of roles and responsibilities as well as partnerships and friendships. I am simply having fun thinking aloud around the apostle story right now.

"Apostolic fathers" is one of those phrases that create pictures in all of our minds. For some it provides the drama of the early church, their fight for faith, martyrdom and the scriptures. For others, it raises the deep longing to get the fathering that has so long been desired-especially true for many church planters and leaders. For me, I was so honored, graced by having an apostolic father who walked me through my evolution as a church leader. I am absolutely certain Dudley saved me from the ruin of ambition, absence of wisdom and into the value of the bigger story.

When I speak of "apostolic fathers," I am speaking of apostles who are fathers both to individuals as well as churches. This is never a position/title nor is it an imposed role. There is a God connection that creates a long term journey together, not to create ongoing dependence but true fathering life. Here are some thoughts:
  • Genesis 1 and 2 draws us into the divine intention that fathers are to 'be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth". This apostolic heart was planted in us from the beginning-even before the fall,
  • "... A man shall leave his father and his mother..." true fathering prepares his sons to leave home, to engage in marriage, establish their own families, have their own kids. These apo fathers do not create ongoing dependence but empower the children to leave home - a moment of much celebration,
  • "Now the Lord said to Abram, 'Go from your country & your kindred & your father's house to the land that I will show you.'" This Genesis 12 text is such a pivotal piece of the Old Testament puzzle. It is a call to take the family out from the known story. However God goes on to tell Abraham that he will be the father of "many nations". God never intended the apo father to simply make one big growing catholic organization. Rather to seed "many nations" just as Terry Virgo and New Frontiers is doing,
  • "Timothy, my true son" the greatest legacy any apo father can leave is the sons and daughters of his ministry who are now walking with great fullness, confidence and fatherly endorsement into their future. As Jacob blessed each of his sons in the latter part of Genesis, so too apo fathers should invest into sons, raise them up "in the ways of the Lord", journey with them to ready them for when they leave home, bless them to go to live their dream but remain in the wings for those informal dad / son moments. I am so saddened that so many apos see their organizations as their legacies, therefore these must be kept / maintained at all costs, leaving many 'sons' feeling betrayed and used. It should not be.
  • " I became your father in Christ Jesus..." Whilst Paul said this to the Corinthian church, not every church had an apo father so intimately involved with their journey. The weakness of the modern church seems to be that 'many churches equals success'. I am not sure that is true. It would seem that the apos did journey closely with some churches but never to create long term dependence nor become territorial and possessive. As with fathering, it is close intimate involvement initially but progressively release them to other voices and influences.
  • "Apostolic oversight" is not a biblical phrase. I fear it has become more than it was ever intended to be. There can be no layer of leadership between the local elders and the Father. That leads to control of the worst kind. The elders then simply become management of an external requirement rather than God lovers who hear His voice personally and clearly and lead the community with the faith that "comes from hearing the word of God". I believe the biblical image is one of "our partnership in the gospel" - Phil 1. This is a picture of walking alongside rather than being over.
  • "To the saints and faithful brothers in Christ in Colossae" Paul writes this from prison. Epaphras comes to faith in Ephesus. He heads back home and plants a church. Soon however he runs into difficulty with false teaching so appeals to Paul for help. Paul writes this beautiful epistles, loaded with truth and gospel life. However, Paul does not pretend to be this church's father - grandfather if anything. However he is of huge assistance in their journey through his "blog, twitter, facebook, book". In this very real world, every church may not have 'their own apo father', but they can learn from those whom God is raising up around the world to fulfill this most necessary role.
I hope this has helped. There is a better way. Better that coaches or mentors. Better than apo oversight and control. Better than impersonal distant organizations. Simply apostolic fathers who journey with you and your church, readying you to leave home, empowering you to live your story. I do like that very much.

Monday, December 6, 2010

Is there another way? Emerging Apostles

This is a simple obvious conversation, yet one cannot believe the kind of confusion that the mismanagement of this matter has caused. Let it be stated that we believe that apostles are still needed and essential for today. They are not the chief gurus of the church. They are not the CEO's of the modern imperialistic corporate megachurch. They are not "over all" in a papal way. They are not more important than any of the other Ephesian 4 gifts. Yet they do have their place and are pivotal to a healthy church.

Lets pause to reflect on the wonder of the early church. Every honest reader will be astounded by the sheer surprise of the Spirit led church. They were not 5 step strategists. They planned, dreamt, set their course [as Paul did to get to Spain] yet they were always flexible enough to flow with the God surprises, interruptions. The divine intentionality was clear looking back. Yet I am sure than these early men and women were baffled at times at the way in which God let "His will be done".

The first generation apostles were clearly identified. Jesus called them, trained them, then entrusted the "discipling of nations" to them. It is the second and third generation apostles that now intrigue us. Bear in mind, that the early church did not:
  • Start organizations or denominations. They are not necessarily evil, they just often get in the way of the God life so clearly evident in the text,
  • Hand over leadership to another. There is no apostolic succession in the scripture. One can hand over administration or even positional leadership, but one cannot hand over this God appointed gifting,
  • To be an apostolic movement is to be led by an apostle,
  • The very fiber of this early church was missional - get this marvelous gospel of the kingdom to every ethnic group as soon as possible. It was a case of all hands on deck.
So how did the next generation of apostles emerge?
  • "Paul, an apostle-not from men nor by man..." Gal 1:1 This is so important. Michael Eaton says that 'apostles fall from the sky'. They are not appointed by men. They are clearly God-anointed and appointed. No one can be taught to be an apostle. One can learn to be apostolic but the grace gift is simply from heaven.
  • "On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles... my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles" Gal 2:7+8, This gift to be an apostle is then clearly recognizable. There is a track record of matters we have described to be evidence of apostleship. Therein is our safety - the fruit is clearly evident.
  • "Paul, Silas and Timothy... as apostles of Christ we..." 1 Thess 1:1; 2:6, This mandate is now including two of Paul's 'sons in the common faith'. So beyond the original 11 / 12, add in Paul and now a few more.
  • "[Paul] came to ...Lystra, where a disciple named Timothy lived... Paul wanted to take him along on the journey... As they travelled from town to town, they delivered the decisions reached by the apostles and elders" Acts 16:1 - 5, Paul recognized this apo mantle on this young man. It was there in seed form but he now gets him to do this apo life with him. He travelled with Paul. He was sent on apo sojourns on behalf of Paul. He went to Ephesus to learn to lead a church and so forth.
  • "I became your father through the gospel. Therefore I urge you to imitate me. For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus ..." 1 Cor 4:15 - 21, Timothy is sent to Corinth as part of Paul's apo story. He is not simply an ambassador or a help. He is being trained to fine-tune his emerging apo gift. Initially he is simply taking Paul's gospel. However in the 2 Timothy epistles, he is now encouraged to preach this message as his own.
  • "But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all your duties of your ministry..." 2 Tim 4:5 This is the last known communication between Paul and Timothy. For me, I see Paul setting a son free to become an apo father in his own right. These are his coming of age texts, that are worthy being studied through those lenses.
There are several emerging apostles in my world. They are strategically positioned to lead key churches around the world. They do not all know that this mantle rests on them but they soon will. Our task is to journey with them, taking them with us as they get prepared for this future role. Some are a little too arrogant right now as they are running very successful churches. Others do not yet believe it. Like Timothy, they are paralyzed by their frailties. But they are emerging apostles-and we need thousands of them.

Sunday, December 5, 2010

Is there another way? Apostolic Entrepreneurs

OK. We are on dangerous but fun grounds when we begin to explore ideas that are not clearly and overtly in scripture. I was on skype recently, when chatting with a dear friend about his future. Inadvertently, for many the only big adventure presented to them was "plant a church". Like the old traveling medicine man of days long gone, there was one cure for all ailments - for any person who had a big story in their heart, we directed them to plant a church. That was not conscious nor was it malicious. We were so impassioned to change the world for Jesus, we gave a very narrow adventure, even a career path — become a church planter.

Church planters were the heroes. They were the role models. They were the real believers. They really wanted to serve Jesus. Churches that planted churches were the real deal. So the message was clear and obedience was pre-scripted. The validation for many was not the marketplace, but the church. It was never intentional but the career path for all was 'become and deacon, then an elder, then a church planter...' That wrong needs be corrected.

I am passionate about planting. It leaks out of my very pores. We are merely scratching the surface of what we are to do. More churches to be planted. More churches to be replanted. So I do not want to water down this clarion call. However, it does require that we clearly and overtly validate, train and facilitate others who have a similar heart but have a very different mandate in how they are to express this call — the apostolic entrepreneur .

As this is a newer vocabulary, it is not a new idea. May I add, I am not an expert on this subject but am wanting to stimulate this conversation? What is an 'apostolic entrepreneur'?
  • To be 'apostolic' should include some of the following ingredients:
  • To have a desire and grasp of God's bigger story,
  • To understand the redemption nature of all that we do,
  • To see the gospel as central to our journey,
  • To be a guardian of doctrine and a proclaimer of truth,
  • To view all ventures through the lenses of 'discipling all nations'
  • To use the scripture as the matrix for all decisions,
  • To be a masterbuilder both in architecture as well as in building,
  • To be in partnership with other Eph 4 minded folks,
  • To be fully kingdom minded,
  • To have an ability to identify and develop leaders,
  • To seed many other apo ventures,
  • To set in order that which is lacking,
  • To be the scum of the earth,
  • To continuously be catalytic of new God adventures and stories.
To be entrepreneurial with this in mind may well include the following:
  • The entrepreneur is a risk taker. They are not overly preoccupied by systems or forms. They are more captivated by converting big ideas into strategic projects,
  • They operate best in space and are dreamers of new angles and ways,
  • They are comfortable with risk and dislike empty repetition,
  • They want to make much profit but the administration of the profit begins to set them apart from others,
  • They delight to see this profit as vehicles of kingdom expansion,
  • They are not imperialistic, so do not ask them to sell your brand,
  • They are driven by money as world changers but are finding it more and more difficult to simply pour it into the church. They want to invest in other world changing forums,
  • They are wanting to play a role in empowering those involved in social justice, strategic philanthropic projects, uplifting the poor, disabled, uneducated, abused,
  • They see the world as their stage but want one successful project at a time,
  • They want to empower others to start businesses to multiply the journey, not just create ongoing dependence,
  • They may need to be coached on how their business plan can be shaped by the gospel, the kingdom and biblical financial adventures,
They need to be validated, even if most of what they do is not to the church nor for the church — but is for the kingdom.

I trust this creates a conversation that may help some understand their apostolic heart matched with a marketplace passion. We can help each other forward with some pretty cool big stories.

Saturday, December 4, 2010

Is there another way? Apostolic Scaffolding

I love the early mornings. Many years ago, the Father spoke to me about opening the gate for our marketplace folks as they enter that exciting world daily. [I was studying John 10 at the time. Jesus as our good shepherd] My response was 'Father will you wake me up? This is not naturally me'. I did not want to fight the alarm every morning. So for a couple of decades now, I have loved waking up before the sun comes up, over coffee review the day, gather around the sacred text, see which folks and which churches the Father would have me pray for. I have loved knowing that by the time others drag themselves from their beds, they have been prayed for and their day covered in partnership.

The apostolic conversation is such a pivotal one for the evolving church in the twenty-first century. Bringing all the ingredients of 'apostles, apostolic, apostolicity' to the table is essential to ensure healthy churches that will not be one generational wonders.

The apostle is a master builder [1 Cor 3]. He is not a theoretician or an idealist. There is clear evidence of the fruit of his apostolicity seen in the leaders he has raised up, the churches he has worked with, the doctrine he has declared and the contexts he has pioneered.

The notion of 'master builder' is one of both architect [designing each situation uniquely as it requires yet upholding the universal building code of the text] whilst also being the engineer / builder [fully functional, practical and helpful, never building a one size fits all, with the fruit of his labor being seen in churches still powering many years later].

In order to build, scaffolding is needed. I remember being mesmerized by the building of these huge tower-like structures in Hong Kong when I saw them for the first time. The amazement was not the height of the structures but the scaffolding made of bamboo. They towered into the misty skies, flexible yet firm enough to empower the builder to take this building into the unknown. Then as the building neared completion, these scaffolding structures were dismantled. They were not incorporated into the building no matter how effective they were in helping the building go up.

Here are some scaffolding convo pointers:
  • What is clearly and truly biblical that we have to include in every church — that is every church worldwide needs to have these ingredients in place as the texts demands — whether it is a village church under a tree in Africa to an urban plant in New York to a secret house church in China? We must always go back to the text.
  • What is prophetically essential for now but will need to be removed when the season changes? What has the Father said that requires our immediate obedience yet only involves today's responses. Tomorrow they will be different.
  • What is culturally imperative as a key to the heart of that community? Paul's genius in Athens is still worthy of our scrutiny. However we cannot become slaves to this piece of the puzzle as it is scaffolding and the culture convo does change as culture evolves.
  • What is contextually vital for the church to be planted or replanted in a given locale? The story needs to be known, the historical trends understood, the people's lenses translated. Yet our response to these realities require scaffolding solutions and not building blocks that will stand till he returns.
  • What is Spirit led ? The Spirit is like wind that 'blows where it wills, so it is with everyone born of the Spirit of God'. It seems like every move of God starts with that life but never resides there. What starts out as spontaneous, flexible, changeable so often ends up as fixed, rigid, repetitive.
  • What is gospel centered? The gospel does not and will not change. There is one meta-narrative, one Jesus story that will be the cornerstone and foundation. To change that is to imply it is scaffolding — tragedy. Yet there is glorious freedom to robe that gospel with the coat of many colors-full of creativity, fun, joy.
  • What is yesterday's success may become tomorrow's curse. As with a child growing up, so one cannot ongoingly rely on the First Grade applause or the Third Grade victory. Each year requires its own transitions and achievements.
  • What are some of the keywords that will determine ongoing apostolic impact? Let me list a few: humility, teachability, organic, flexibility, togetherness, partnership, demolition, evolution, courage, love... or in simple Trinitarian language - Unity in Diversity.
Hope this helps the conversation in your community to ensure apostolic effectiveness is not lost with dead repetition without organic God life.

Thursday, December 2, 2010

Is there another way? Simple Apostolicity

I had a delightful lunch with 3 very special friends yesterday. As always, we set about solving the world's challenges, and as always we engaged passionately in the wonder of His bride and how we can do this journey better.

My story through the Jesus People Movement, the Charismatic Renewal and the Restoration of apostles today, has taught me many lessons. I have been part of a movement that imploded. I have loved and served in one that institutionalized. And what is most challenging is that church history reports that these are the only 2 long term scenarios that every movement ultimately ends in. But can that be true? Did the Father not place in His cosmic design an alternative conclusion for His divine interruptions? Is that what Jesus died for? Was the cross simply a key that produces a journey of unmet dreams as movements implode or access to a form of faith that simply keeps repeating yesterday, tomorrow? Has the Holy Spirit come, the wind, fire, water and dove Holy Spirit, to a predetermined non existent conclusion of stifling religion?

Please let the dreamer speak...

I am persuaded we can repeat the 63 years of recorded New Testament text where neither of these 2 scripted outcomes occurred. There is another way, but it will need to be sculpted by the sacred text continually, never believing our current grasp on these matters are the final version of truth. Is that not raw arrogance? Some thoughts that may help:

  • Abraham was the father of MANY nations. The notion of starting something that must just keep getting bigger than be fashioned by a theology of multiplication, is foolhardy,
  • Without faith it is impossible to please God. Fear because of past experiences cannot be the driving agency. The wonder of the text and faith in the God factor must keep us free from the disappointments of the past.
  • He gave some to be apostles... prophets... evangelists... pastors... teachers... These ascension gifts simply cannot be reduced to every believer is one, nor can we prefer coaches, mentors and generic middle management teams. History will repeat itself.
  • Sons become fathers. As with the family, so with the church — let the sons become fathers and start their own families.
  • No longer call you servants, I now call you friends. There needs to be a strong personal, real, honest, transparent relational glue. Being held together by a system, or code just is not in the text.
  • I went up to Jerusalem. Paul going to Jerusalem to volunteer theological accountability is a forgotten humility. The absence of a strong theological base will be the ultimate demise of every movement. It is not our ecclesiology, nor our mission that will hold our foundation — just Christ Paul said — but that we have a substantial, processed theological / credal set of convictions.
  • My ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. This text is both missional as well as anthropological. Every movement has to ensure that she is clear about her divinely designed mission [the what] as well as whom the Father wishes for them to reach.
  • Garments... wineskins. Movements begin to die way before they know it. Part of the reason lies in the fact that they simply repeat a successful model year in and year out. What is the wind of the Spirit saying now? Forget the former things... behold I am doing a new thing.
  • Your name is no longer Jacob but Israel. It is a fascinating thing to see how powerful a name is. I suspect, as with our daughters leaving home and changing names, we may need to be much more open to name changes. They often reflect yesterday's call, mandate and architecture.
  • One will put a 1000 to flight, 2... There is still a power of togetherness. Two can simply achieve more. Fragmentation and isolation are the curse of the fall not the reflection of the Trinity. In fact, it was said in the book of Judges - everyone did as they saw fit.
  • First of all apostles then prophets...NOT over all but in front of. With a hierachical mindset, the text is so often mistaken to depict CEO styled structure. This will guarantee an institution.
  • Timothy my son... The future will surely be more than one generational wonders. Rather fathers who are comfortable to step back and let sons run their own race, forge their own journey.
  • You [local church] are the seal of my apostleship... Forget size, notoriety, age, apparent success. True apo future will be seen by the individual churches they journey with — personally, intimately and effectively without creating ongoing dependency or a single system.
  • Prophets came down from Jerusalem... Healthy apo ministry will partner with prophets. The prophets will keep exploding the dead wells while the apostles will keep the architecture true to scripture.
Hope these help. Do you have your own conclusions based on your journey? Keep open to His kindness. He aint done with us yet.